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The British Medical Association feedback

This is the answer I got from Them::

Dear Felipe Cárdenas,

Thank you for your email.

The homeopathic training of doctors was debated this week at our Annual Representatives Meeting. At the meeting doctors voted overwhelmingly in favour for the following;

That this Meeting believes that, in the absence of valid scientific evidence of benefit:
(i) there should be no further commissioning of, nor funding for, homeopathic remedies or homeopathic hospitals;
(ii) no UK training post should include a placement in homeopathy;
(iii) pharmacists and chemists should remove homeopathic remedies from shelves indicating they are 'medicines' of any description, and place them on shelves clearly labelled 'placebos'.

We understand that many patients find value in homeopathic treatments. However, our view is that medicine requires that all treatments have a strong evidence base, particularly when they are funded on the NHS and at a time of severe financial constraints.

In conclusion, we are not opposed to patients seeking treatment from homeopaths but we do not believe that the health service should fund this.

I hope that this clarifies the BMA's position for you. We are grateful for all feedback we have received from the public, and we thank you for your comments.

Yours sincerely,

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Comment by Dr. Wequar Ali Khan on July 10, 2010 at 12:23am
Dr Ravi, you have aptly quoted the great poet of the subcontinent "Allama Iqbal".

Its time we left the crutches and got on our own.New direction,new vision and pragmatic strategies with independent views. There are are lot of philanthropist all around the globe who if they want can spearhead a new direction for homeopathy. True Homeopathy;And when there is a will there is a way;
Comment by Dr. Wequar Ali Khan on July 10, 2010 at 12:13am
Hans what you have stated is a"bitter pill" but i think it is necessary in to days scenario for survival of Homeopathy in years ahead.

Its time homeopaths and homeopathy come out of their trance.It is now a question of the survival of the fittest.As stated if Paul,s clinic in heart of Europe,Switzerland has not only survived but i should say thrive,there is no reason why true Homeopathy can not surge with knowledgeable and qualified doctors who will now have to shoulder the responsibility with vision and independence,such as the likes of NHS.If Cuba can do it,others can do it too.India as yet seems to be the bastion of homeopathy,and must lead the world by steering on the path of true homeopathy.

Homeopathy must learn to stand on its own leg against all odds.It has to find its own finance and run on its own steam.If homeopathic drug manufacturers and distributors and the community get their acts together on cooperative basis,then we can hope for brighter days ahead.After all why do we only talk of "social responsibility",its time to put it into practice.
Comment by Hans Weitbrecht on July 9, 2010 at 3:08pm
Dear members

I fully agree with the NHS.

Their findings are correct.

Why finance homeopaths who don't perform?

Let us return to the way things are over here in Ireland. No funding from NHS! (HSI over here)
No public funding for homeopathic hospitals!

Only those who are good homeopaths survive -- because they get the results, others don't.
Statistically there should be more than 500 homeopaths now practicing in Ireland, all of them left as graduates from the 2 schools. Where are they?

And lets face it -- I have seen things carried out under the umbrella of homeopathy which have nothing to do with it or are a complete contradiction to it funded by the NHS.

Ask Paul Muthatunkunnel -- he can tell the community why their privately run hospital in Switzerland survived 20 years. Hospitals like this should be funded.

Hans Weitbrecht
Comment by Suhas Kotbagi on July 9, 2010 at 12:08pm
Homeopathy and Western medicine are two separate institutions with universal subjects studied by physicians of both sides.

The common subjects being regular medical subjects of anatomy, physiology etc, the separation occurs in pharmacology of both the sciences and due to this separation eventually the philosophical outlook varies tremendously and hence the ensuing problems.

I consider this day as an “emancipation day” for homeopathy from the grips of western medicine. Why should western medicine dictate terms about whether homeopathy should be practiced in NHS and why homeopaths should seek permission from allopathy for its recognition?

I think for the first time UK is well on its way to truly help homeopaths to build their own NHS (National Homeopathy Services) organization.

There are always three ways to solve any problem

1. The 2 warring factions can stay on their points (Status quo) and keep on fighting.
2. They can join and find a common ground for benefit of all.
3. They can go their separate ways for ever and be happy.

For last 200 years homeopathy and allopathy fought with no common ground to join. At last today they have gone their separate ways and will find happiness in their own way.

Comment by Dr. Ravi Singh on July 9, 2010 at 9:52am
Dear Dr.Wequar here I want to say
Khudi Ko Kar Buland Itna Ki Khuda Apne Bande Se Khus pooche Bata Teri Raza Kya hai.

Dear Homeopaths of U.K. unite yrself and prove them by yr result , public will agitate the Government to support homeopathy if they will feel so.
Comment by Debby Bruck on July 9, 2010 at 9:51am
I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this.... but it is in the news.
British Medical Association report

The motion was widely debated at the ARM in Brighton, but it was eventually carried despite a warning that it could alienate patients from 'conventional medicine'.

Dr Mary McCarthy, chairman of Shropshire LMC, raised the motion outlining that scarce NHS resources should not be spent on treatments that ‘have no firm evidence base'.

She said: 'Let’s leave homeopathy to be funded by those who want to use it and who believe in it, and leave NHS scarce resources for proven medical treatments.'

But Dr John Garner, a member of the BMA's Lothian division, said stopping NHS funding for homeopathy would deprive patients who have found benefits from such treatments.

He said: 'All GPs know that some patients have undiagnosable symptoms. These patients after extensive investigation have no evidence of pathology but still suffer their symptoms. Some of these patients, for whatever reason, find benefit and relief in homeopathic treatments – be it placebo effect or not.

'I would prefer if I could continue to prescribe homeopathic medicine so they can continue to see me, rather than dismiss them with conventional medicine and risk alienating them when their symptoms change and serious pathology emerges.'

A separate strand of the motion, which called for pharmacists to place homeopathic remedies on shelves labelled 'placebos', was also carried.

Afterwards a DoH statement said: ‘Although we don't hold central data on spending on homeopathy across the NHS, we do know that the cost of homeopathic prescription is a tiny fraction (approximately 0.001%) of the overall drugs bill of £11,378 million.

'Decisions are made locally and issues such as safety, clinical and cost effectiveness, and the availability of qualified and regulated practitioners are taken into account by the NHS when making decisions.'
Comment by Debby Bruck on July 9, 2010 at 9:47am
Can the homeopathic hospitals survive without this funding? Will the people, themselves support the homeopaths and hospitals?
Comment by HOMEOPATIA SOUZA MARQUES on July 9, 2010 at 9:44am
What are the advantages of Homeopathy? "
Homeopathy showing no side effects stimulates the body to react naturally morbid against any internal or external agent.
His preparations are small doses but energy due to the process of diluting the infinite and constant stirring, to release energy drug. It's energizing.
It is a cheap product and is available to anyone. In addition to not harm the body. The person homeopatizada ie the person who usually deals with Homeopathy hardly gets sick. These are some of the benefits of homeopathy.
What are the disadvantages of homeopathy?
I see no disadvantages only advantages for certain who it is with Homeopathy.

The lobby and big pharma industries "do not know what it is!
Comment by Katja Schütt on July 9, 2010 at 9:27am
that's crazy.... I can only shake my head...
Comment by Dr. Wequar Ali Khan on July 9, 2010 at 9:22am
It seems that if there is no money in NHS,which seems to have been manipulated for various reasons to get Homeopathy to start limping and then die.The powers to be being powerful have done what they were asked to do by the powerful lobby which exist in England today.

Even the so called Royalty are today helpless at the hands of the powerful anti homeopathy mafia.

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