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Physicists Demonstrate a Four-Fold Quantum Memory


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Here we have a tangible proof that water - which is but a storage medium - can have a so-called memory. This finding is of tremendous importance to homoeopathy.

In our view, the homoeopathic remedies are quantum entities, generated by trituration. They fall in the category of nano-potencies, as explained in a previous blog of mine. See here at HWC under my blogs: Scientific Explanation of Homeopathic Potencies

The project described here in this post gives us ample reason to study it carefully, since it speaks not just of a single form of memory, but a four-fold one, showing that there is more to homoeopathic potencies than at first meets the eye. The claims of Benveniste, Roy, Conte and Montagnier have been vindicated by these findings.

The quantum interface is between the atomic memories, which of course also exists in water. After all, water is H2O, consisting of two different atoms in a particular configuration. If we take as an example Calcarea carbonica, CaCO3, then we see that the "memory" is shared between the Calcium component, the carbonic component and the different atoms of water - H2O. Hence a further dilution will share this memory again and again, even after Avogadro's limit.

Physics comes up with more and more proof of the memory of water and the possibility that homoeopathic remedies do contain more than "nothing." After all, something can never become nothing, it can only turn into something else. The basic premise of physics is that matter can never be destroyed. It can however be reduced to information, with which we can influence the information processing of both the human, animal or plant body and its genetic material, which is nothing less than an interactive information processing system. Input equals output at all times.

A good argument againsts the skeptics is to point out the difference between generalised medicine as in Pharmaceutical poisons and the quantum potencies of homoeopathy. It is based on the same difference between physics and quantum physics. Quantum physics cannot be explained away by Avogadro's limit, as little as homeopathic remedies can be explained away by it. ConMed is physics and homoeopathy is quantum physics. The two are mutually exclusive in terms and any comparison between the two must fall flat for those reasons alone.

Another difference to be pointed out is that an RCT is not the right vehicle for testing, since we cannot assign qualities to homoeopathic medicines they do not posses. Just as we do not demand ConMed poisons to be tested the homoeopathic way - since they would utterly fail in the individualised prescription, there being no proving done with them, apart from the poisoning cases that provide but a gross symptom picture - it is unrealistic to demand that our medicines should be subjected to the testing methods as employed in the RCT.

Therefore, the post here reproduced is also a good argument to show that memory of water can no longer be denied, since it has been proven to be not just a single form, but a four-fold aspect of the remedies. It is recommended that we take heed and use it to our advantage.

Physicists Demonstrate a Four-Fold Quantum Memory

ScienceDaily (Nov. 20, 2010) — Researchers at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) have demonstrated quantum entanglement for a quantum state stored in four spatially distinct atomic memories.

Their work, described in the November 18 issue of the journal Nature, also demonstrated a quantum interface between the atomic memories -- which represent something akin to a computer "hard drive" for entanglement -- and four beams of light, thereby enabling the four-fold entanglement to be distributed by photons across quantum networks. The research represents an important achievement in quantum information science by extending the coherent control of entanglement from two to

multiple (four) spatially separated physical systems of matter and light.

The proof-of-principle experiment, led by William L. Valentine Professor and professor of physics H. Jeff Kimble, helps to pave the way toward quantum networks. Similar to the Internet in our daily life, a quantum network is a quantum "web" composed of many interconnected quantum nodes, each of which is capable of rudimentary quantum logic operations (similar to the "AND" and "OR" gates in computers) utilizing "quantum transistors" and of storing the resulting quantum states in quantum memories.

The quantum nodes are "wired" together by quantum channels that carry, for example, beams of photons to deliver quantum information from node to node. Such an interconnected quantum system could function as a quantum computer, or, as proposed by the late Caltech physicist Richard Feynman in the 1980s, as a "quantum simulator" for studying complex problems in physics.

Quantum entanglement is a quintessential feature of the quantum realm and involves correlations among components of the overall physical system that cannot be described by classical physics. Strangely, for an entangled quantum system, there exists no objective physical reality for the system's properties. Instead, an entangled system contains simultaneously multiple possibilities for its properties. Such an entangled system has been created and stored by the Caltech researchers.

Previously, Kimble's group entangled a pair of atomic quantum memories and coherently transferred the entangled photons into and out of the quantum memories. For such two-component -- or bipartite -- entanglement, the subsystems are either entangled or not. But for multi-component entanglement with more than two subsystems -- or multipartite entanglement -- there are many possible ways to entangle the subsystems. For example, with four subsystems, all of the possible pair combinations could be bipartite entangled but not be entangled over all four components; alternatively, they could share a "global" quadripartite (four-part) entanglement.

Hence, multipartite entanglement is accompanied by increased complexity in the system. While this makes the creation and characterization of these quantum states substantially more difficult, it also makes the entangled states more valuable for tasks in quantum information science.

To achieve multipartite entanglement, the Caltech team used lasers to cool four collections (or ensembles) of about one million Cesium atoms, separated by 1 millimeter and trapped in a magnetic field, to within a few hundred millionths of a degree above absolute zero. Each ensemble can have atoms with internal spins that are "up" or "down" (analogous to spinning tops) and that are collectively described by a "spin wave" for the respective ensemble. It is these spin waves that the Caltech researchers succeeded in entangling among the four atomic ensembles.

The technique employed by the Caltech team for creating quadripartite entanglement is an extension of the theoretical work of Luming Duan, Mikhail Lukin, Ignacio Cirac, and Peter Zoller in 2001 for the generation of bipartite entanglement by the act of quantum measurement. This kind of "measurement-induced" entanglement for two atomic ensembles was first achieved by the Caltech group in 2005.

In the current experiment, entanglement was "stored" in the four atomic ensembles for a variable time, and then "read out" -- essentially, transferred -- to four beams of light. To do this, the researchers shot four "read" lasers into the four, now-entangled, ensembles. The coherent arrangement of excitation amplitudes for the atoms in the ensembles, described by spin waves, enhances the matter-light interaction through a phenomenon known as superradiant

"The emitted light from each atom in an ensemble constructively interferes with the light from other atoms in the forward direction, allowing us to transfer the spin wave excitations of the ensembles to single photons," says Akihisa Goban, a Caltech graduate student and coauthor of the paper. The researchers were therefore able to coherently move the quantum information from the individual sets of multipartite entangled atoms to four entangled beams of light, forming the bridge between matter and light that is necessary for quantum networks.

The Caltech team investigated the dynamics by which the multipartite entanglement decayed while stored in the atomic memories. "In the zoology of entangled states, our experiment illustrates how multipartite entangled spin waves can evolve into various subsets of the entangled systems over time, and sheds light on the intricacy and fragility of quantum entanglement in open quantum systems," says Caltech graduate student Kyung Soo Choi, the lead author of the Nature paper. The researchers suggest that the theoretical tools developed for their studies of the dynamics of entanglement decay could be applied for studying the entangled spin waves in quantum magnets.

Further possibilities of their experiment include the expansion of multipartite entanglement across quantum networks and quantum metrology. "Our work introduces new sets of experimental capabilities to generate, store, and transfer multipartite entanglement from matter to light in quantum networks," Choi explains. "It signifies the ever-increasing degree of exquisite quantum control to study and manipulate entangled states of matter and light."

In addition to Kimble, Choi, and Goban, the other authors of the paper are Scott Papp, a former postdoctoral scholar in the Caltech Center for the Physics of Information now at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, Colorado, and Steven van Enk, a theoretical collaborator and professor of physics at the University of Oregon, and an associate of the Institute for Quantum Information at Caltech.

This research was funded by the National Science Foundation, the National Security Science and Engineering Faculty Fellowship program at the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD), the Northrop Grumman Corporation, and the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity.

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Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on December 15, 2010 at 4:43am

Dr Mas, even lactose contains moisture and thus water, The remedies in glycerine are in tincture form. In any other form they are added as potencies already. Your argument is spurious.

Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on December 15, 2010 at 4:25am

You have not just heard Kaviraj's ideas but an entire article by scientists engaged in these matters.


Here is another scientist who has said things to the same effect.

The defining role of structure (including epitaxy) in the plausibility of homeopathy.

Rao ML, Roy R, Bell IR, Hoover R.

The Materials Research Institute, The Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA 16802, USA.

Erratum in:

  • Homeopathy. 2007 Oct;96(4):292.

Comment in:


The key stumbling block to serious consideration of homeopathy is the presumed "implausibility" of biological activity for homeopathic medicines in which the source material is diluted past Avogadro's number of molecules. Such an argument relies heavily on the assumptions of elementary chemistry (and biochemistry), in which the material composition of a solution, (dilution factors and ligand-receptor interactions), is the essential consideration. In contrast, materials science focuses on the three-dimensional complex network structure of the condensed phase of water itself, rather than the original solute molecules. The nanoheterogenous structure of water can be determined by interactive phenomena such as epitaxy (the transmission of structural information from the surface of one material to another without the transfer of any matter), temperature-pressure processes during succussion, and formation of colloidal nanobubbles containing gaseous inclusions of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, and possibly the remedy source material. Preliminary data obtained using Raman and Ultra-Violet-Visible (UV-VIS) spectroscopy illustrate the ability to distinguish two different homeopathic medicines (Nux vomica and Natrum muriaticum) from one another and to differentiate, within a given medicine, the 6c, 12c, and 30c potencies. Materials science concepts and experimental tools offer a new approach to contemporary science, for making significant advances in the basic science studies of homeopathic medicines.

PMID: 17678814 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Comment by Dr. MAS on December 15, 2010 at 3:57am

Dear HWC Administrator

Everybody, the person who is in favour of homeopathy or not should be invited on this board to post his/her comments on this theory, so that we should have an opportunity to understand those points which can be raised on Kaviraj ideas. It is an academic discussion and so for we have only heard Kaviraj but others point of view positive or negative should be allowed. Only one side opinion could be harmful for our homeopathy.

Comment by Dr. MAS on December 15, 2010 at 3:49am

Above 2364 members have been registered on this website, your sum up deserves you to get noble prize, as you are the person who has solved all the problems of understanding the mechanism of homeopathic remedy action on a simple paper. You have also very beautifully tackled the issue of avogadros problem which the homeopaths were facing for decades but you have also resolved this issue as well. But I am astonished that none of the 2364 members have interest in your derived theory. May I know the reason why?


May I know the reason, why the rest of the world community has no interest in your judgment?


Are these members not capable to understand what you have revealed? Or Why I am the only person who is trying to understand your point of view? Does it mean I am also imprudent?

Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on December 9, 2010 at 4:08pm
John Benneth send me the following:
This is from the University of California at Berkely. It shows r-frequencies from water clusters, reminsicent of Montagnier's report. Note the frequencies in gigahertz.

Figure 1

The 89.5 cm−1 torsional hot band of (D2O)3 (Left) was the first intermolecular vibrational band observed for a water cluster in the gas phase (13). The spectrum shows splitting of each vibration-rotation transition into a characteristic quartet by the bifurcation tunneling motion (see Fig. ​Fig.66b). (Right) Shown is this quartet for the 41.1 cm−1 torsional band (103), the most intense water trimer band observed to date. The intensities of the quartet components are determined by nuclear spin weights. S/N, Signal to noise.

The study also also explores the various configurations of water moelcules in dimers, trimers, pentamers, etc.
This confirms what Benveniste said at the Cavendish, implying a new biological paradigm.
This is an example of the science that supports homeopathy.
The UK government I think is best positioned to roll out this paradigm.
I want help in developing this information as the physics of homeopathic medicine.

Water clusters: Untangling the mysteries of the liquid, one molecule at a time
Frank N. Keutsch* and Richard J. Saykally†
Department of Chemistry, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720-1460
*Present address: Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138.
†To whom reprint requests should be addressed. E-mail: .
Contributed by Richard J. Saykally
Accepted May 29, 2001.
Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on November 30, 2010 at 5:40pm
But not only did Hahnemann reveal the inner, hidden powers of things, he incidentally proved their infinity. He did not do it on purpose; in fact, he actually jibbed at his own discovery, as I shall shew you just now, but he did it all the same-or his followers did it for him, which amounts to the same thing. This revelation was made through Hahnemann's discovery that by a graduated attenuation of substances remedial powers were not lost, were even increased, and new powers were brought into activity. By his centesimal method, making the degree of attenuation two decimal points at each remove, he carried his attenuations as far as the thirtieth, or sixty decimal places. This degree he marked "X," and said, thus far and no farther-" the thing must stop somewhere." Here was Hahnemann's mistake:-the thing does not stop anywhere ! He had no more right to put a limit at this end than his contemporaries had at the other. And soon the proof was forthcoming, for there arose Boenninghausen with his 200ths, Lux and Jenichen with their 1000ths, Lippe, Fincke and, finally, our own Skinner with their millionths, to prove that there is no limit to anything in nature, and that however far the attenuation is carried the power remains and answers truly to the call of the provings.
Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on November 28, 2010 at 11:20pm
Dr Mas, you question is not worth answering. You are not trying to understand anything. Goodbye.
Comment by Dr. MAS on November 28, 2010 at 11:14pm
Yes, I admit, my understanding is poor and I unable to convey my points. I was confused about quantum and water memory. You said, “In our view, the homoeopathic remedies are quantum entities, generated by trituration.” I have started learning homeopathy according to your perspective.

In my opinion quantum entities do not vindicate the homeopathic concept of remedies with reference to water memory, being the reason is that, homeopathic medicines are prepared in many medias (solvents) e.g lactose, glycerine, alcohol, oil etc. I wanted to clarify that if a solvent that does not contain water then how water memory can be detained? My second question is that whether each solvent that is used for homeopathic preparation can detain memory of the previous solution? For example, if I prepare aconite in olive oil and take it to 30 potency then will this 30 potency detain memory of the first dilution when olive oil does not contain water?

Thanks for taking pain for understanding my question.
Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on November 27, 2010 at 4:54am
Are you denying what you have said earlier in other threads that Benveniste theory of water memory is correct. Now you are saying it is wrong. I am confused. Pl clarify?

Where have I said it is wrong? A vindicated claim is a claim proven. I can understand that English is your second language so your confusion is clear. I have never stated he was wrong because I have never used any words to that effect.
Comment by Vaikunthanath das Kaviraj. on November 27, 2010 at 4:52am
Yes, because the memory was there from the start. Read the article and discover this is so.

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