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Homeopaths Claiming To Give Homeopathic Alternative To Vaccinations.

Dear community
At a time where homeopathy is standing on fragile legs and at risk of being kicked out the NHS, now is not the time to make claims that homeopathy can replace vaccinations, malaria prophylaxis, or treat AIDS and cancer. The media is looking to single out and target homeopaths. Although we may disagree, every homeopath represents our entire profession. Professional organizations and councils, it is your responsibility to ensure that your members don't make claims like these. Please remind them.

Daily Mail News Article

Homeopaths Offering MMR Alternative Puts Patients At Risk Warn Doctors

Homeopathy uses greatly diluted forms of herbs and minerals to treat patients

Homeopaths are offering alternatives to crucial vaccinations such as MMR, which could leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, doctors have warned.

Three alternative practitioners have admitted they gave patients a homeopathic medicine designed to replace the triple Mumps, Measles and Rubella vaccine.

Homeopathy claims to treat disease symptoms by using greatly diluted forms of herbs and minerals, but the three practitioners said they could even prevent illness.

Homeopath Katie Jarvis, who is based in Inverness, said she offered 'homeopathic prophylaxis' to patients who said they were interested, which could be given 'instead of or as well as the vaccination.'

'The alternative that I would offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that is given in a homeopathic remedy,' she said.

When asked if the remedy she offered gave the same protection as the MMR, she said: 'I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that.'

Homeopathy explained...
It is based on the principle that, 'like cures like' - that an illness can be treated by substances that produce similar symptoms. For example, homeopaths claim onions, which make eyes itchy and tearful, can be used to relieve the symptoms of hay fever.

But scientists point to the fact that the 'cures' are so diluted that they cannot possibly contain even a single molecule of the original substance. Instead they say the pills provide a placebo effect.

The homeopathic industry, worth £40million in the UK, does not dispute this, saying that their remedies retain a 'memory' of the original ingredient. But they are unable to say how this could happen given the laws of physics and chemistry.

Doctors said the practices, which were revealed by a BBC investigation, were 'extremely worrying'.

Dr Vivienne Nathanson, the British Medical Association's director of science and ethics, said: 'It could persuade families that their children are safe and protected when they're not. And some of those children will go on to get the illness and could even die.'

The findings emerged after the BBC spoke to the six members of the Homeopathic Medical Association in Scotland, which has 300 members in the UK.

Replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy, who said there was no proof the remedies could prevent disease.

Magic or Medicine - Homeopathy and the NHS, is broadcast tonight at 7.30pm on BBC One Scotland.

One homeopath was interviewed on BBC news and claimed that the homeopathic remedy changes the shape of your aura, so that the mosquitos carrying malaria won't come near.

Let me know if you agree.


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Comment by Dr. Nishant on October 1, 2010 at 4:21am
Comment by Hans Weitbrecht on September 19, 2010 at 11:51am
dear members

Homeopathic prophylaxis is a contradiction, if understood in such a way, that a nosode of a given disease is applied in advance of the epidemic in the hope to prevent the disease taking hold.
there are no homeopathic vaccines.

Hans Weitbrecht
(more concerned with practicing homeopathy, than talking about it at the moment)
Comment by Dr Muhammed Rafeeque on September 17, 2010 at 12:46am
Isopathy is based up on the principle "same cures same", whereas homeopathy is based upon "Like cures like". In 26th aphorism, Hahnemann has given a sentence within brackets- WHILST DIFFERING IN KIND, which differentiates homeopathy from isopathy. Giving the same drug to remove the sickness is tautopathy.

In homeopathy, prophylaxis is given in three different ways.
1. Genus epidemicus
2. Drug on the basis of common symptom of the disease
3. Nosode.
Because of these three different modes, we often come across differences in the opinion while giving prophylaxis. Similarly, one genus epidemicus selected in one particular area may not be indicated in another area. If we select the genus epidemicus scientifically by studying the diagnosed cases, we will surely get result. Blindly giving some medicine on the basis of common symptom or giving a favorite remedy is useless, and it will spoil the reputation of Homeopathy. While giving the prophylaxis, it should be documented and the result should be collected and published.
Comment by El Cecchetto DCH, CCH, RSHom(NA) on September 16, 2010 at 11:50pm
Homeoprophylaxis is not isopathy. Isopathy is the employment of homeopathically prepared substances responsible for the disease itself. For example if someone had a specifically traceable reaction to the MMR vaccine, you may want to try the isopathic approach of giving MMR vaccine in homeopathic potency to the person suffering from this specific problem. However, homeoprophylaxis is based on the symptoms of the disease. We have the clinical understanding of many of the infectious diseases that one might be choosing to vaccinate for. If one chooses not to vaccinate but does want to take something to potentially prevent the disease, we are fortunate enough to have an understanding of what remedies might be suitable for that specific request from a patient/client. If you don't feel that your training as a Homeopath will lead you to enter into that level of service, than you have that choice for your own practice. It is well within the system of homeopathic medicine to be able to serve at that level when it can be understood deeply enough. Indeed it would be lovely to have more studies to back the services that can be provided. Let's brainstorm on how we can get that done more so and more publicly.
Comment by Dr Rajneesh Kumar Sharma MD(Hom) on September 16, 2010 at 10:50pm
Cud nt chnge the remedy due to fear of disturbance in action of Arnica.
Comment by Debby Bruck on September 16, 2010 at 1:12pm
Gabrielle - this is good topic of discussion.

Rajneesh - Do you ever use the water dose method and succuss in order to repeat remedy, even in high potency? And arnica helps to speed healing. Thus, the body goes through its normal process. Perhaps, even, there would be another remedy more specific to the case, such as bellis perennis or ledum.
Comment by Gabrielle Traub on September 16, 2010 at 11:35am
Thank you to all of you for your comments. I'm sorry if I didn't express myself very well. My intention wasn't that we shouldn't help support patients going through serious diseases like cancer and HIV, or that we shouldn't give homeopathic remedies to boost the immune systems of patients who choose not to vaccinate, it's about the claims that are being made that is disconcerting. Nobody can with good conscience claim that homeopathic prophylaxis is better or just as effective as vaccinations in preventing malaria, or measles in pregnant women. It may be, but we have very few studies or recorded cases to back up our claims in this area. Hahnemann has excellent results giving the genus epidemicus during an epidemic, but he didn't routinely give isopathy for life long immunity.
Comment by Dr Muhammed Rafeeque on September 16, 2010 at 7:26am
Ecchymosis after injury is a natural process, because the small blood vessels get damaged due to injury. How can we prevent this by taking arnica? Arnica can only remove the after effects of injury such as shock, pain etc. It can also absorb the blood clots. But it can't prevent the natural events that occur after an injury. Bleeding, pain, unconsciousness etc are some defense mechanism of the body!

I think you could have taken Arnica one more dose or any other remedy on the basis of indications. In homeopathy, we have a number of drugs for injury.
Comment by Elena Zagrebelnaya on September 16, 2010 at 6:02am
And if this was a proving of Arnica? This is the point!
Comment by Dr Rajneesh Kumar Sharma MD(Hom) on September 16, 2010 at 5:07am
I took a dose of Arnica 50 M for some of my ailments twenty days ago. Good action was seen. Unfortunately I got some blunt injury on my back. There was marked swelling, ecchymosis and severe fever with chill. Why did Arnica as vaccination to injury not done its job? I was compelled to have few doses of Ibuprofen to get releif as I could not repeat Arnica due to its high potency dose already taken.

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