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Homeopaths Claiming To Give Homeopathic Alternative To Vaccinations.

Dear community
At a time where homeopathy is standing on fragile legs and at risk of being kicked out the NHS, now is not the time to make claims that homeopathy can replace vaccinations, malaria prophylaxis, or treat AIDS and cancer. The media is looking to single out and target homeopaths. Although we may disagree, every homeopath represents our entire profession. Professional organizations and councils, it is your responsibility to ensure that your members don't make claims like these. Please remind them.

Daily Mail News Article

Homeopaths Offering MMR Alternative Puts Patients At Risk Warn Doctors

Homeopathy uses greatly diluted forms of herbs and minerals to treat patients

Homeopaths are offering alternatives to crucial vaccinations such as MMR, which could leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, doctors have warned.

Three alternative practitioners have admitted they gave patients a homeopathic medicine designed to replace the triple Mumps, Measles and Rubella vaccine.

Homeopathy claims to treat disease symptoms by using greatly diluted forms of herbs and minerals, but the three practitioners said they could even prevent illness.

Homeopath Katie Jarvis, who is based in Inverness, said she offered 'homeopathic prophylaxis' to patients who said they were interested, which could be given 'instead of or as well as the vaccination.'

'The alternative that I would offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that is given in a homeopathic remedy,' she said.

When asked if the remedy she offered gave the same protection as the MMR, she said: 'I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that.'

Homeopathy explained...
It is based on the principle that, 'like cures like' - that an illness can be treated by substances that produce similar symptoms. For example, homeopaths claim onions, which make eyes itchy and tearful, can be used to relieve the symptoms of hay fever.

But scientists point to the fact that the 'cures' are so diluted that they cannot possibly contain even a single molecule of the original substance. Instead they say the pills provide a placebo effect.

The homeopathic industry, worth £40million in the UK, does not dispute this, saying that their remedies retain a 'memory' of the original ingredient. But they are unable to say how this could happen given the laws of physics and chemistry.

Doctors said the practices, which were revealed by a BBC investigation, were 'extremely worrying'.

Dr Vivienne Nathanson, the British Medical Association's director of science and ethics, said: 'It could persuade families that their children are safe and protected when they're not. And some of those children will go on to get the illness and could even die.'

The findings emerged after the BBC spoke to the six members of the Homeopathic Medical Association in Scotland, which has 300 members in the UK.

Replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy, who said there was no proof the remedies could prevent disease.

Magic or Medicine - Homeopathy and the NHS, is broadcast tonight at 7.30pm on BBC One Scotland.

One homeopath was interviewed on BBC news and claimed that the homeopathic remedy changes the shape of your aura, so that the mosquitos carrying malaria won't come near.

Let me know if you agree.


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Comment by Debby Bruck on September 15, 2010 at 9:52pm
Dear Gabrielle. As I read the article above, I only see fallacies, bias, twisted use of journalism, and the BBC's typical attacks upon the homeopathic community. This is not fair reporting. You know that there is a battle by the medical associations to retain their position AND their funding by the NHS. They have a liaison with the skeptic elements of their society, such as Simon Singh. Do not trust anything that you read in those papers and the video, as well, was not posted by a favorable element. The titles should give that away.

If we, as homeopaths, believe in our scientific method of healing, then we must stand up for it where we know that it will relieve suffering. The inquisitor in the video makes hearsay statements and does not give a chance in the interview to tell more in the clip.

Everyone needs to be discerning about the words used in written articles. The above article is a threat. But, those who use and love homeopathy must stand behind the principles, remedies and practitioners to get us through these trying times.
Comment by Dr Muhammed Rafeeque on September 16, 2010 at 12:45am
Only the delirious skeptics feel that Homeopathy is standing on fragile legs. Removing homeopathy from NHS does not mean that it is removed from England. They are planning to stop funding, but they have no intention to ban homeopathy- the authorities have already mentioned that.

MMR is the useless vaccine, because i have seen measles, mumps and German measles among the vaccinated children. Why should we give a useless vaccine which can only affect the natural defense mechanism? Even some good modern medical doctors are against vaccines. Here are some books written by some experts, most of them are modern medical doctors. I feel those "health experts" should read these books before promoting these killer vaccines:
Murder by Injections- Eustace Mullins
Pasteur Exposed- Ethel Douglas Hume
Pasteur Plagiarist Imposer- R B Pearson
Polio Contamination Packet- NVIC
Racketeering in Medicine- James Caster
Shot in the Dark- H L Coulter, B I Fisher
Some call it AIDS: I call it Murder- Eva Lee Snead
Immunization: Medical Miracle or Masterful Mirage- Obomsa Win
Lethal Injections: Why Immunization don't work- William Campbell Douglas
Making an Informed Choice: Immunization, the other side- Paticia Gayman
Mass Vaccination: A Point in Question- Trevor Gunn
Medical Mischief- William Howard Hay
How to Raise a Healthy Child In spite of Your Doctor- Robert Mendelson
Immunization: Reality Behind the Myth- Walene James
Immunization: The Other Side- Patrica G Gayman
Immunization: Theory vs. Reality- Neil Z Miller
Confessions of a Medical Heretic- Robert Mendelson
Dangers of Compulsory Immunization- Thomas Finn
Don't get stuck! Case against vaccinations- Hannah Allen
DPT: A shot in the dark- H L Coulter and B L Fisher
Hidden Dangers in Polio Vaccine- Eleanor Mc Bean
The Serpent on the Staff- Wolinsky, Tom Brune
The Vaccination Dilemma- Leon Chaitow
Vaccination and Immune Malfunction- Harold E Butram
Vaccination Condemned- Eleanor Mc bean
Vaccination, The Silent Killer- Ida Honorof and E Mcbean
Swine flu Expose- Eleanor Mc bean
Take charge of your child's health- George Wootan
The Dangers of Immunization- The Randolph Society
The Medical Mafia- Guylaine Lanctot
The Poisoned Needle- Elenor Mc bean
Vaccines are Dangerous- Curtis cost
Vaccines, Autism and Childhood disorders- Neil Z Miller
Vaccines: Are they really safe and effective- Neil z miller
What your doctor may not tell you about children vaccinations- Stephanie Cave
When your doctor is wrong- Judy Converse
Vaccination: The hidden facts- Ian Sinclair
Vaccination: Social Violence and Criminality- Harris L Coulter
Vaccinations do not protect- Eleanor Mc bean
Vaccinations, the untold truth- Eva Snead
Vaccine and serum evils: Herbert Shelton.
Courtesy: Dr B P Harichandra PhD, Lecturer in Mechanical Engineering,
Bangalore, India.
Comment by Dr.Sharad Shangloo on September 16, 2010 at 3:00am
in this reference the book of Kate Birch ex vice president The North American Society of Homeopaths on vaccine injury is of great use.It is a very informative book and everyone must read it
Comment by Debby Bruck on September 16, 2010 at 3:54am
That's a bibliography Dr Rafeeque!
Comment by Elena Zagrebelnaya on September 16, 2010 at 4:34am
Yet, I think that the very priniciple "like cures like" precludes any "prophylactic" use of homeopathic remedies, because one cannot know what is the person sickness might be "like" before it actually happens and reveals all the symptoms. One can argue that a good remedy which is a similimum at a given moment will protect the person from infavourable disease progress, and maybe even there will be no symptoms upon exposure to some infectious disease, like some people are "carriers" but do not develop symptoms, but that some remedy can prevent some particular disease is always questionable - and what is more questionable is the effect in the long run - and if the disease (its expression) is just suppressed? Is this going to benefit the person in the long run?
I think what is needed is education of people what health and what disease are in the first place - things like fever is good for you - I have heard that many doctors even in Japan have figured out by now that suppressing the fever tends to bring adverse developments in the course of an infectious disease. It is this sort of information that people need to know, and then they will not be easily scared by the media manipulations, and will not fall for the push of vaccines and such... As there was already mentioned on this site, right now there is a lot of bad press for homeopathy in Japan at the moment, and what people write at the blog of the newspaper that runs this news often makes a lot of sense - that some people push questionable products under the name of homeopathy - and these mostly get bashed most of all, while the hahnemannian approach is mostly forgotten... So it does look that "homeopathy" has evolved into something denying conventional medical care and all that the people are used to - which to an average person would truly look like a cult.
Homeopathic, or I'd rather say, holistic thinking is indeed different, but people need a basis to approach it gradually - a sudden shift of the paradigm is very difficult to assimilate... So the best way is to acquaint people with the facts that homeopathy is not based on the "memory of water" - it is not in reality! It was discovered purely empirically, through endlessly and reliably reproduced experiments - the experiments, experience came first, and the theory is still in the process of development, and not otherwise - as the media is trying to construe and many people end up believing. And this is what should be stressed. For example, Blatta (cockroach) remedy is good for asthma not because the cockroach lives in the dust and dust is an allergen or any similar reason, but because it was shown to be causing asthmatic breathing in the provings - and subsequently curing attacks of asthmatic respiration...
Comment by Dr Rajneesh Kumar Sharma MD(Hom) on September 16, 2010 at 5:07am
I took a dose of Arnica 50 M for some of my ailments twenty days ago. Good action was seen. Unfortunately I got some blunt injury on my back. There was marked swelling, ecchymosis and severe fever with chill. Why did Arnica as vaccination to injury not done its job? I was compelled to have few doses of Ibuprofen to get releif as I could not repeat Arnica due to its high potency dose already taken.
Comment by Elena Zagrebelnaya on September 16, 2010 at 6:02am
And if this was a proving of Arnica? This is the point!
Comment by Dr Muhammed Rafeeque on September 16, 2010 at 7:26am
Ecchymosis after injury is a natural process, because the small blood vessels get damaged due to injury. How can we prevent this by taking arnica? Arnica can only remove the after effects of injury such as shock, pain etc. It can also absorb the blood clots. But it can't prevent the natural events that occur after an injury. Bleeding, pain, unconsciousness etc are some defense mechanism of the body!

I think you could have taken Arnica one more dose or any other remedy on the basis of indications. In homeopathy, we have a number of drugs for injury.
Comment by Gabrielle Traub on September 16, 2010 at 11:35am
Thank you to all of you for your comments. I'm sorry if I didn't express myself very well. My intention wasn't that we shouldn't help support patients going through serious diseases like cancer and HIV, or that we shouldn't give homeopathic remedies to boost the immune systems of patients who choose not to vaccinate, it's about the claims that are being made that is disconcerting. Nobody can with good conscience claim that homeopathic prophylaxis is better or just as effective as vaccinations in preventing malaria, or measles in pregnant women. It may be, but we have very few studies or recorded cases to back up our claims in this area. Hahnemann has excellent results giving the genus epidemicus during an epidemic, but he didn't routinely give isopathy for life long immunity.
Comment by Debby Bruck on September 16, 2010 at 1:12pm
Gabrielle - this is good topic of discussion.

Rajneesh - Do you ever use the water dose method and succuss in order to repeat remedy, even in high potency? And arnica helps to speed healing. Thus, the body goes through its normal process. Perhaps, even, there would be another remedy more specific to the case, such as bellis perennis or ledum.


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