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Homeopaths, Ayurveda Docs can do surgery...High Court

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Comment by Dr Nikhil Kambli on August 25, 2010 at 4:32am
The ruling is good news..

If organon is properly read , one may come across aphorisms

Organon aphorism §186
Those so-called local maladies which have been produced a short time previously, solely by an external lesion, still appear at first sight to deserve the name of LOCAL diseases. But then the lesion must be very trivial, and in that case it would be of no great moment. For in the case of injuries accruing to the body from without, if they be at all severe, the whole living organism sympathizes; there occur fever, etc. The treatment of such diseases is relegated to surgery; but this is right only in so far as the affected parts require mechanical aid, whereby the external obstacles to the cure, which can only be expected to take place by the agency of the vital force, may be removed by mechanical means, E. G., by the reduction of dislocations, by needles and bandages to bring together the lips of wounds, by mechanical pressure to still the flow of blood from open arteries, by the extraction of foreign bodies that have penetrated into the living parts, by making an opening into a cavity of the body in order to remove an irritating substance or to procure the evacuation of effusions or collections of fluids, by bringing into apposition the broken extremities of a fractured bone and retaining them in exact contact by an appropriate bandage, etc. But when in such injuries the whole living organism requires, AS IT ALWAYS DOES, active DYNAMIC aid to put it in a position to accomplish the work of healing, E. G., when the violent fever resulting from extensive contusions, lacerated muscles, tendons and blood-vessels requires to be removed by medicine given internally, or when the external pain of scalded or burnt parts needs to be homeopathically subdued, then the services of the dynamic physician and his helpful homeopathy come into requisition.

but alas the sad part is how many homeopathic institutes in India are good enough for undergraduate level let alone post graduate level
use of modern medicines, when and how to use is more important..
A Proper Homeopath should have knowledge of everything ..as he realises the limitations of medicine.

WE NEED INSTITUTES TO TRAIN PEOPLE IN MEDICINE AND HOMOEOPATHY........
IF COLLEGES DON'T HAVE GOOD HOSPITALS THEY SHOULD BE POSTED IN MUNICIPAL /GOVT HOSPITALS AND EXAMS SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN SUBJECTS OF SURGERY, MEDICINE ESPECIALLY VIVAS BY POST GRADS OF CONVENTIONAL MEDICINES.
if a student has never seen anything what he will treat, and homeopaths and homeopathy is blamed..........

what is the use knowing medicines and creating fancy themes around them when you don't know what is happening to the patient?????????????
Organon aphorism §3
If the physician clearly perceives what is to be cured in diseases, that is to say, in every individual case of disease (KNOWLEDGE OF DISEASE, INDICATION), if he clearly perceives what is curative in medicines, that is to say, in each individual medicine (KNOWLEDGE OF MEDICINAL POWERS), and if he knows how to adapt, according to clearly defined principles, what is curative in medicines to what he has discovered to be undoubtedly morbid in the patient, so that the recovery must ensue—to adapt it, as well in respect to the suitability of the medicine most appropriate according to its mode of action to the case before him (CHOICE OF THE REMEDY, THE MEDICINE INDICATED), as also in respect to the exact mode of preparation and quantity of it required (proper DOSE), and the proper period for repeating the dose;—if, finally, he knows the obstacles to recovery in each case and is aware how to remove them, so that the restoration may be permanent: THEN HE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO TREAT JUDICIOUSLY AND RATIONALLY, AND HE IS A TRUE PRACTIONER OF THE HEALING ART.

KINDLY NOTE THE WORDS TRUE PARACTIONER OF THE HEALING ART.....

AUDE SAPERE
Comment by Dr Nikhil Kambli on August 25, 2010 at 4:28am
just imagine a breed of homeopaths who are sound medically ...and yes homeopathically in every sense.........
if practiced in the right manner....the use of modern medicine can be kept just to infinitesimal ie very very very minimum.........
the idea is to provide right health care to patients.
Comment by DR.D.A.SATHE. on August 24, 2010 at 9:10am
Surgery is different subject of study. In India we are not getting homeopathic medicines in many ares.But moral of our practitioners is high and we apply homeopathic medicines whenever similimum founds and again when the medicine is available with us.
We are not overconfident about surgery but we say that all educated practitioners in surgery must try to put their knowledge in practice.Here in India we are facing various types of emergencies in rural areas and we must tackle them.
Comment by Dr. MAS on August 24, 2010 at 12:22am
For Homeopaths, I must say, they should study surgery as well at least the cases like obstructed labour instead of refering them to other allopaths, homeopaths can perform surgery themselves. That’s true and logical. But homeopaths are overconfident on surgery management. To me, in homeopathy less opportunities or solutionss are available.

Let me explain this point in the background of Pakistani rules and regulations. We Homeopaths can only practice those Homeopathic medicines which are mentioned in in Pakistani Homeopathic pharmacopeia approved by the Federal Government (UAH Act 1965-2002). Definitly you require many other drugs or chemicals during surgery which are not mentioned in homeopathic pharmacopeia. What’s the rules are in India in that background, I have no idea.

So, if surgery is allowed by the Indian High Court then, it does not mean that you are also allowed to use allopathic drugs or chemicals used in operation management. In that sense, homeopaths are of India are still handicapped.
Comment by DR.D.A.SATHE. on August 23, 2010 at 7:33am
Yes We know that 65% of homeopaths are practicing mixopathy. Why? this is because of all those 65% more or less practicing in rural ares of India where there is no availability of homeopathic medicines.As this country is having hot climate again it is impossible to preserve all medicines in their dispensaries. More often we observed that twelve with tissue remedies
many practitioners are practicing homeopathy.Now in homeopathy we required particular remedy in particular potency now here lies the key why Indian homeopaths are not able to
store all medicines.In ares like Kokan and many districts I think that there are only 10 to 15 homeopathic pharmacies per three to four dist.s Surgery is a separate branch of medicine and here in India our graduates must have full knowledge of surgery so that they should not depend on any surgical aid.I am quit sure that our surgeons will apply their knowledge of homeopathy in managnment of surgical cases. But they must get opportunity for same.
I request to all educated practi. in homeopathy and surgery that please do try to put your skil of surgery [if you have taught] and serve our pts.
On aug 9th I asked a question that how you are going to solve a case of obstructed labour
no one repl. Then why there is much rour against homoepaths if they will serve their pts with conventional medicines in emergencies only.
Comment by Dr. MAS on August 22, 2010 at 10:14pm
Surgery is a separate branch of medical science. It has no link either with allopathy or homeopathy or any other system. The problem is that ALLOPATHS were doing surgery that's why allopathy has taken credit of surgeons work who some time takes good initiative to manage the case through surgery.

All cases are not required homeopathic medicines. All cases are also not required allopathic medicines. Sometime surgery is highly recommended to safe the life of patient. But at that stage homeopaths are not trained to manage it. The cases are referred to surgeons and allopathy then takes credit of that management. ONLY SURGERY HAS GIVEN LIFE TO ALLOPATHY TODAY.

If well educated, highly sound academically homeopaths are given training in surgery to manage surgery cases then it will boost homeopathy as well. BUT I SEE IN NEXT 20 YEARS IT IS NOT POSSIBLE AS TO MY EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE HOMEOPATHY OR HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINES DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SOLOUTION OF SO MANY AFTER SURGERY MANAGEMENT. The need of the today is to establish a research center where work is carried out to make plan how to manage each and every kind of surgery cases with homeopathic medicines.

In Pakistan, it is not possible till you bring changes in Homeopathic Practitioners Act 1965 – 2002 where is clearly and boldly written “HOMEOPATHS ARE NOT ALLOWED PERFORM SURGERY”

As for as Indian High Court decision is concerned and the way this news is circulated. I see, homeopaths are happy by this decision. This also shows that Homeopaths’s eye is more on economical aspect then homeopathic principal. The Homeopaths of India are thinking now they can more perform MORE MIXOPATHY then they are doing now. Do you know in India, above 60% homeopaths are doing mixopathy. To them it is more encouraging news. :)
Comment by DR.D.A.SATHE. on August 11, 2010 at 12:59am
Thank you Dr Sajjad Sadiq Saifi for your suggestion.We must work on this topic.
Comment by H/Dr Sajjad Sadiq Saifi on August 10, 2010 at 6:12am
Dear Dr.D.A SATHE,
Nice to read your comments but i think Dr.Prema is right to say that this might be a an excuse rather escape for practitioners who are not well trained and hence a threatening time for Homoeopathy. I would like to mention Hahnemanne, as, when a few Homoeopaths asked for Hanhnemanne's permission for the usage of allopathic drugs in case of emergency. And Hahnemanne called them "Mongrel Sects".
In my view, its the time to enter a really great branch of medical science that is Surgery. The need is to evaluate the recent measures of Surgery and evaluate in a sense whether what measures are typically allopathic and what measures fall under the realm of homoeopathy. As its quite evident that modern western medicine is not entirely allopathic. Its allopathic in its certain aspects. The need is to incorporate homoeopathic medicines in surgery, keeping in view the golden rules of homoeopathy and avoiding the drugs which are destructive for human economy according to homoeopathic approach. We must keep in mind that we are against the rule of allopathy and anything which is not truly allopathic, so far as the treatment is concerned, may be used along with homoeopathic remedies.
Comment by DR.D.A.SATHE. on August 9, 2010 at 1:24am
All systems of medicines are developed according to requsit of pts. here i want to say that proper education of surgury is must for every practitioner .Any how, we must treat our pts in various emergencies. If a homoeopath is doing surgury what is shameful in it. As their is no medicine for local anasthesia in homoeopathy then what should be done? How you are going to tackle a case of obstructed labour?
Please understand here Homoeopathy is not on backfoot . Surgury is a special branch of medical field.
In post operative cases Homoeopathy acts well.In pre operative cases it is helpful.
Without help of modern medicine we can not do surgury.[whether it is simple or difficult]
For example we are not able to stitch without L.A.
And while serving our pts in emergency Homoeopath
In India our country is developing fast and here in this all Homoeopaths who are educated in surgury must give advantage of their knowledge tgo their pts.
Homoeopathy is a system medicine. This system has great tradition and so no one can harm Homoeopathy.
Comment by Dr.Prema on August 7, 2010 at 4:48am
i am very worried such a initiative was given by the govt. now every one of the alternative medical practitioner who have no respect and love for their own system and who lamely and shamelessly practice allopathy, will take this loophole as their sole reason and enjoy doing more and more harm to the alternative medical systems.

The IMA clearly states only in need of emergency. and emergency is a relative term which gives all opportunity to be mis-used, and taken advantage of. Many emergencies can be very well met out with alternative medicines, and only in unavoidable rare situations using of allopathic means are needed.

This step is a great setback to all alternative medicines and a shameful act on the part of Homeopathy.

it is a great shame, such a law was in-forced.

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