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I was reading the principles and when it came to potentisation, it was stated that a remedy at every potency is shaken about 100 times by striking against a, say, thick resilient leather bound book. If it was done for say about 1000 times what will happen? Or if done only twice what will happen? I read in one of the posts that the good doctor said he has given the remedy using only two succussions. What does it mean? In my understanding perfect and homogeneous blending of the drop of remedy and drops of alcohol is the criteria. Or is it?

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The basic idea behind this is the thorough mixing.That is what i understand.
sajjad.
Maybe provide more context to your reading. Do you have a link to the complete text and who is the author?
Mr.Anand.

Regarding the number of strokes to be employed for raising the
potency of the drug substances, Hahnemann himself had changed his
views from time to time, and went on experimenting. He started
initially with 100 strokes but found them too strong as they
produced a violent aggravation. He then used only two strokes.
He, however, settled at ten strokes per potency rise. American
and German pharmacopoeias still advocate ten strokes. The
potentisation is to be carried out in accordance with the recipes
denoted under each monograph in the pharmacopoeia.
Dear Anad,
Your point is valid. To say that a medicine succussed 90 times is less active than that received 100 succession is hypothetical. Succession increases the potency slightly (Perhaps)and Hahnemann observed that by doing this we can repeat the medicine 'a number of times daily, even in advance pathological cases without so called aggravation and can cut short the period of cure in chronic and acute diseases because the medicine will keep on working without anti doting the previous dose or remaining ineffective due to of the same potency .
sajjad.
some times( very occational),when we greatly need medicine to prepare & the bottle is empty. We put few drops of alcohol in the bottle , shake slightly & give to pt. in globules & it works...
The succussion is not meant for thorough distribution of the remedy. This is a materialistic concept. After, say 6x, there is unlikely to be any material molecules of the remedy to be found in any given amount of the remedy. (Avogadro's number, a concept I struggled with a great deal in chemistry and now turns out to have a practical application after all!) Homeopathic potencies work by intensifying the energy of the remedy, not by intensifying the material properties of it.

If dilution alone were sufficient for making homeopathic potencies, we would not succuss at all. It is the combination of the two that produces the action of the remedies as we employ them. At the risk of over-simplifying, dilution contributes to the gentleness of the remedy while succussion contributes to the intensity of its action. Thus LM potencies are very mild, but have a very deep action, because they are both more dilute than X or C potencies, and are given more succussions at each stage (X and C potencies, as has been previously stated, are typically given around 10 strokes; LMs are still given 100.)

Because we do not have the understanding of physics which will permit a thorough clarification of this subject, it is difficult to grasp. One has to develop a kind of feel for it, which helps decide which potency (X, C, or LM) will work most favorably with a certain patient.

Very interesting subject and many thanks to all who posted.
Respected k s ananda sir & Dr. Bruce Arnold
"Homeopathy Works Because Crude Remedies Are Potentised" means lots of technical discussion as well as discussion on personal experiences.
I personaally know few Homoeopaths who , from the last 20-30 yrs doing practice without perchasing any medicine from any pharmacy. There practice is totally depend on perchasing good amount of Alcohol only.
Now think ,How they are maintaining the qualities of medicines or how they can say that they have particulor potency in a particular phile because when a medicine is going to finish ,they just add few amount of alcohol ,add few successions & start giving to Pt. & always getting good results. Just think that 30 potency purchased 10yrs. ago is may be 70 or 80 potency... They are doing very good practice & always select a similimum.
Now , because you are an experienced technical person with a qualities of keen observer , we expect some more views on this sir...
Dr Prabhat,
Not only a few but many homeopaths are doing the same thing because the drug similarity is more important than potency similarity.
sajjad.
The potency is equally important. Hahnemann says that the potency must also be given according to the law of similars. Low vitality and great intensity of the disease require low potencies, because vitality is low. High potencies can be given if the intensity of the disease is not great and the vitality is high.

LM is given when even low potencies aggravate and can, if necessary, be given on a daily basis. This depends on the duration of action and must be carefully monitored, because even LM's can be dangerous.

"Frequent repetition is not allowed, as it brings much trouble as a rule. The greater the homoeopathicity and the higher the potency, the greater the danger. They may put the life of the patient in danger or make his case almost incurable. Therefore, each dose must have completely finished its action, which forbids the giving of another remedy as well as the repetition of the same." Chronic Diseases, page 124-125
This is like how I prepare LM remedies. Because I carefully control the amount of dilution and succussion, I am creating exactly a 2LM out of a 1LM, a 3LM out of a 2LM, and so on. The method you describe would work well and amounts to the same thing, although perhaps your esteemed colleagues are not controlling the dilutions/succussions to the degree necessary to state exactly what potency they have ended up with. This is not a problem. If it is the simillimum, it will work, and since they are not raising it in this manner to the M levels, there is little danger that such a remedy would overwhelm the vital force of a patient in whom the VF was weakened. This is a very smart way of maintaining a stockpile of remedies without unnecessary expense.
Mr. Anand, Potentisation or Dynamisation- It is a physical process by which latent dynamic curative power of medicines are aroused in to activity- those were inactive in crude state. By this process quantitative reduction of drug substance occur, but qualitative increment takes place.
The process of potentisation is carried our by two methods:

(a) Triturations (for dry and crude substances) and
(b) Succussion (for liquid)
These processes are carried out in two scales:
(1) Decimals: Where the ratio of drug to vehicle is 1:10
(introduced by Dr. Hering)
(2) Centesimal : where the ratio of the drug to vehicle is
1:100 (introduced by Hahnemann).

The 50 Millesimal scale is a later addition of Hahnemann which
he mentions in the VI Edition of the Organon. This is a
combination of trituration of a crude substance in a centesimal
scale to the level of 3c and subsequently succussion in the ratio
of 1:50,000.
DILUTION- It means act of diluting i.e. to any mixing one liquid with the other, as a result the original substances loses its internal strength, where as its material quantity is greatly increased.
Now come on the point whenever we give the ten strokes to a dilution it increased the one potency or next potency. If we increase the strokes or succussions more than ten it increase the intensity of dynamic power or force, which causes aggravation.
What do we do in plussing method?---We add the more disttiled water which decrease the intensity of dynamic power or force, so there is less agg. Of symptoms. To avoid the agg. Dr. Hahnemann inveted fifty Millesimal scale.
In your quaries you are directely or indirectely asking that How homoeopathic medicine work? If you want detail I am suggesting a book i.e. A scientific Handbook of Homoeopathic Medicine by Prof. Alexandra N. Delinick,. Thanks a lot-------
Respected sajjadakram sir,
Your information is a practical approach & will be usefull for so many Homoeopaths.
Now we exectly need these types of informations just to think for the next part of practical homoeopathy....Thanks again sir..

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