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Hello everyone,

I'm working with a group of Homeopaths in Vancouver's DownTown East Side (DTES) which is world renowned for its addicted, homeless and marginalized population. We have North America's first Safe Injection site where we've been invited to help the clients using Homeopathic Treatment. We are 20 Classical Homeopaths looking for anybody's experience and advice with Substance Misuse. We are seeing people in various stages of detox and beyond.

One specific question is how to get them off Methadone without the severe and long-term side effects. They refer to it as 'liquid handcuffs'. Helios has the methadone syrup in various potencies. Has anyone got any ideas for us?

Soon, we'll have our non-profit society status and anyone can become members to show support for Homeopathic Treatment of people with Substance Misuse problems.
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Hi Debby
Thanks for your reply,I did activate a search in your searchbox,Nothing showed up.
Hi Gina

Your post is in the Group Addictions

It can really be confusing when posts/discussions are posted twice - hope you figure it out.
My best to you
i see now,this was posted double,not good!
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Hello Gina,
Sorry for the confusion. This one was posted in error before I realized that the only options were to post it under another previous discussion despite that I had linked on 'Add New Discussion' so it got put under First Aid Discussion in error.
Hello Everyone!

This is a subject that's very important to me for a couple of reasons. One is that I have very close and personal knowledge of it, one from the point of view of addiction in family and the other as a pain patient.

Also, as it happens, I lived in San Francisco when the first methadone "treatment" program was being analysed falsified. As it also happens, the psychiatrist at the head of the program was someone I'd spent a few minutes with. Obviously, I came to an early conclusion that it was a farce - and still hold that view.

I feel strongly that anyone with a substance misuse problem (and thanks for that term, rather than the pervasive "abuse") is a person who is trying to self-treat. It's a way of easing pain, and it's so very important that we realise this fact.

I also feel strongly - passionately - that you must, absolutely must, understand that there's a significant difference between pain patients and addicts. It isn't one of quality, but of the nature of it. The pain patient rarely, if ever, becomes addicted. I stand as proof of that.

Addiction results in being drawn back to the drug, even when it's no longer needed. Dependence means that, though one still must go through withdrawal - and it's a nightmare - once that's over, there's no longer any desire to take the drug, as long as the original reason for taking it is gone.

I feel that this distinction is often lost on homeopaths, who conflate the two - and also a common misconception among allopaths and the rest of the world.

So, I'm very interested and would love to learn more about the homeopathic treatment of addiction and methadone maintenance.
Could this be related to the etiology of the disease? One - takes medications to relieve physical pain. Two emotional disturbance and imbalance leads one to medicate, which becomes an addiction?
No, I absolutely do not believe this. You see, once the pain is gone, there is no reason for the drugs. Yes, there's emotional disturbance, but the assumption that the emotional disturbance is an inappropriate response is, I think, mistaken. When you consider that pain patients nearly always suffer also from extreme loneliness, emotional suffering is to be expected.

Let me tell my story as briefly as possible. I suffered from arachnoiditis, an iatrogenic disease. At risk of sounding maudlin, let me say that it is as horrific a condition as can be imagined. It's neurological and affects the entire body. It's crippling and the pain is beyond comprehension. It cuts life short in every sense.

I had the most aggressive case I've yet heard of, going from onset to near death in three years. Aside from the pain (more on that in a bit), I gasped for breath, digestion had nearly stopped, vision was going bad, sensations in my head were indescribable and horrific, my movement was bizarre, my legs would go out from under me without warning, and much more.

The pain. The best way to describe it is to say it was beyond comprehension. I experienced it, yet cannot comprehend it now that it's gone. I had an implanted intrathecal pump - implanted in my abdomen with a catheter to my spine, pumping constant morphine and baclofen (for spasticity) into the spinal fluid. I also took massive doses of oral methadone and oxycodone on top of that.

After I'd been cured by homeopathy and no longer needed the pump, I had my doctor cut back on the dosage in the pump until it was stopped (except for saline solution, which was necessary as long as the pump was there). I then cut back on methadone, oxycodone, and baclofen until there was none.

For anyone who deals with pain patients, you should know that there is no withdrawal until the final stopping, no matter how small the dose at that point, that results in withdrawal. Whether this is true for addiction, I don't know.

Withdrawal was a living hell, and the baclofen withdrawal was far worse than that of methadone. (As pointed out in the previous paragraph, it is only the final dose that matters. So, there was no withdrawal from morphine - though methadone is actually a form of it.) It took many weeks to get through the baclofen withdrawal.

However, once through the withdrawal, I had no desire to use any of those drugs, and have not had any in the years since.

So no, I do not believe that use of drugs for pain results in an emotional disturbance that causes addiction. In fact, those who study pain treatment have little or no concern with addiction - even in people who were previously addicted.

By the way, I also believe that aggressive allopathic treatment of pain with opiates is a very good thing. I have little doubt that pain is an impediment to cure.

Thank you for the question-comment. I consider open dialogue on this issue to be of great value.
Hi Heidi - thank you for this response. Yes. The purpose was to explore more the lessons of pain and drug relationships. There are many roads to drug use, including pleasure, heredity, after injury, exploration, etc. We are just beginning to learn about addiction and that includes to many substances including salt, chocolate, television, alcohol, etc.
I agree that addiction can be to many substances - and to none at all, such as a gambling addiction. (I've seen that in my own family. It's hard to comprehend, but it's amazing how it can take over a person's life.)

Do you treat addiction with homeopathy? Do you have any suggestions for its treatment? I'd be quite interested in getting involved in treating addiction with homeopathy.

Also, do you have thoughts on whether our diets have something to do with it? I tend to think so, since sugar and grains are so rampant now and affect the hormone system so dramatically.
homeopathics for addictions

my post is in the Group Addictions
I'm sorry, but the link you gave is broken.


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